Hi! At first, those thoughts had such a hold of me, I really thought I was going to die from anxiety. And would feel my heart beating very fast sweating with my mind almost shutting on me. God is very secure in who He is, the Almighty God. Also my anxiety, every time its like my anxiety/fear kicks in when I talk to Jesus , my head would then go somewhere else like to the evil one and then Id try shaking my head or confess to Jesus and tell Jesus Christ I am only praying to you and no one else I am so sorry and I hate this that I cant just talk to you without my head wondering off please forgive me, it has gotten to the point where there is trying to be more doubt in many areas, but I know God in heaven is all powerful. Am i think in a very severe stage of this scrupulosity. As if the Holy Spirit is that one untouchable area of our relationship with God that can never be breached. He understands the battles in our minds. Then Herod, with hismen of war, treated Him with contempt and mockedHim,arrayed Him in a gorgeous robe, and sent Him back to Pilate. I know this sounds bad, but i prefer the feeling of guilty and shame over this nothing right now, I expected to come out a lot stronger and zealous on my relationship with God, but it feels like I've abandoned everything and when I try to get back to it, it feels fake or something, I don't really know how to describe this. Will God turn his back on me? In the past, before I knew that I had scrupulosity and existential OCD, I also had bouts with major depressive disorder and suicidal thoughts. I am so glad I found this page. This shows that in most cases, uncontrollable blasphemous thoughts are not a theological matter or even a spiritual one, but the product of a psychological condition that is not only most unpleasant, but exceedingly unfair. Remember when Elijah was running away from the evil queen Jezebel? Remember that God loves you not on your actions but by faith and he knows your intentions more than you do. I encourage you to read the whole book of Psalms, 1 chapter at a time. I pray for your mind to be released from this burden, in Jesus name I pray amen. My dad even disowned me for a period. I need deliverance from these thoughts. When one comes into my head I try to make it into a sentence that is not blasphemous. They were far more privileged than you and I in their ability to witness miracles and hear the words of Jesus. The same occurs of course whenever I come to a spot in scripture that talks about the Holy Spirit. So He called them toHimselfand said to them in parables:How can Satan cast out Satan? This feels a little bit spiritually intrusive and inappropriate. JavaScript is disabled. He was "decoding" Bible verses on his own. I am happy for sites like this that will give other silent sufferers hope. Do you know what Im talking about? That being said I am going to TRY to take Jaimie's advice and TRY to ignore them. If anyone helped him, he rewarded them. God still loves you and He understands what youre going through. What do I do!! I decided to stick with AA. I said the sinner's prayer when I was 22 while in AA at the time. Thank you so much for this. The king was very interested in seeing Jesus because he was eager to have a miracle performed. I was still getting this here and there recently, then I was prayed over at church recently and then I ran across this article. I feel like God is with me in this situation but I still fell helpless and confused most times. As it says in Psalm 142:2, I pour out mycomplaintbefore Him; I declare before Him my trouble. I complained and not with Pollyannas positive outlook. We think that our thoughts are dangerous, but they arent. Eventually, as you start focusing on other important and positive things in your life, one day you may realize those intrusive thoughts have gone away. Its never too late to receive forgiveness. This type of scary religious thought -- conviction about something new -- may apply to you if: The scary thoughts of conviction probably don't apply to you if: If you think your uncomfortable doubt is a legitimate conviction, don't run from it. What Ive seen sometimes is that people with scrupulosity, who are already feeling like they never do enough, get stressed out to the point of feeling numb; then, to reassure themselves that theres still some spiritual passion inside, they will spur themselves on at a religious camp meeting, Bible school, or retreat. For everyone, let's stay strong and committed, and remember that we're all in this together! For me: The more I commit my self to our Lord Jesus Christ the more the enemy tries to dissuade me. The more I tell me self I am not going to think about it today, automatically make me start thing about it. So from an early age, we are told just be still! when a bee buzzes nearby. It tells you that merely thinking such thoughts means you actually believe them. a few months later my baptism certificate fell off the wall. That He loves me and it will all be okay. It's not your job to save you. I have these thoughts that say I don't care or that I have committed the sin and that I'm going to Hell and I don't feel God or feel the Holy Spirit. I recognize the thought is there in my head, but Im not going to engage with it, no matter how scary it is. When no relief is in sight, your body and brain might work together to shut down this cycle by pulling the plug, figuratively speaking. Hi Luca, We all make mistakes. Let no one deceive you by any means; forthat Day will not comeunless the falling away comes first, andthe man ofsin is revealed,the son of perdition,who opposes andexalts himselfabove all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sitsas God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Its the worst case ive ever seen. Carolynn on Twitter: "Unholy Commandments of Sacred Blasphemy 5. Thou I pray with the guilt of sin, read my Bible and dreaind reading places that talk about blasphemies and these evil thoughts popping up. I have two questions: (1) Can a true believer, whose salvation is eternally secure in Christ, still be guilty of blasphemy? It may take time, but you can find the way out. Its just been confusing me because I dont know what happening and Ive been questioning like whether I am really a Christian or whether I truly love God or if Ive just been living a lie with myself. Yes, these unwanted thoughts can come with all kinds of emotionsanger, anxiety, fear, passivity, numbness, and self-loathing. Very informative read. It will get better! As we had two large areas making it difficult for many to find, we decided to combine the Mental Health & the Recovery sections of the forum into Mental Health & Recovery as a whole. Im glad it was encouraging for you. Please give me pointers! Raw, freshly harvested honey is so tasty! You are definitely in the right place. In other words, they fear their intrusive thought was actually ego-syntonic. Including these thoughts. Here is what happened: Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. Let me rather ask you to read Ezekiel 18. But if Jesus really loves and forgives me then shouldnt he be happy I found a teacher that works for me? But if we remain away until we feel that we have fixed ourselves and our motivation, we will never come. Thank you so much for this! I then started getting unwanted thoughts along the lines of say you blasphemed the Holy Spirit or just blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Dr. R.C. You've pledged yourself to His service and have poured out your heart in surrender, love, and commitment. I have a very international social group, and many of my friends grew up in non-Christian families. But for the person who gets these thoughts while simultaneously having a deep sense of loyalty towards God, it is clearly unwanted. When you trust something into His hands, do you take it back out? I used to get drunk, have premarital sex, smoke pot, chew tobacco, and God helped me through it all when I kept praying for help from Him to do it. God is God, and we are His servants. I have had them to the point of struggling entire church services, at 3 Am, etc. When I brought them into the landconcerningwhich I had raised My hand in an oath to give them, andthey saw all the high hills and all the thick trees, there they offered their sacrifices and provoked Me with their offerings. Is that ocd? How can I know if this is because of God calling me or because of my selfish/intellectual motivations? 6:12-15) is an obvious indication that the Holy Spirit can communicate with us mentally and that we should not think about sinful thoughts about the Lord. There are a few verses we can use to understand this phenomenon and help you reduce your fears. OCD is greatly exacerbated by stress, and it sounds like youve had lots of that lately with a difficult birth. Can I be forgiven? Dont be afraid to answer honestly: do you view God as dangerous or safe? These are common themes in religious OCD. Everything had spiraled from there. Personally, I am highly suspect of people who go around prophesying over others. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I wouldnt consider it anything to worry about. I myself have prayed. God will continue to work on your behalf! I am a redevoted believer trying my hardest to rebuild my faith. Unwanted blasphemous thoughts also fit into this category. Okay so this may not make sense but I'm 15 years old, and I think even though all of this stuff has been happening I always felt like gods will is being done in me ..let me explain, B4 I was saved I saw this tic tok saying is it just me or when u pray do u hear f god , and I was like yeah I used to hear this, later down the road I stared to get more into god , I was veryinuscre and was going into affermations but something was telling me not to I prayed to got asking him if it was bad to do that, a couple of days later I got onto youtube on my TV (I say that bc I'm not singed in so the algorithm its super random also bc I do believe our phone hear us and tablet-like they be listening or whatever.. and I prayed this prayer in my head 2 , But any ways I saw a video on manifistation and how it was bad she also talkeed about how she would but curses on her mom but since her mom was with god they all went onto her and not her mom. Jesus was surrounded by questioning with many words, vehement accusations, contempt, and mocking. Does it sound like the voice of OCD? Can u pls help me and guide me? The best way to respond to that is to gently push yourself, bit by bit, to read your Bible even if you get feelings of anxiety. I had dreams I was possessed etc when I had derelizationx its the worse feeling ever. Knowing that the enemy has to ask for permission before attacking me brings me hope. And my Heavenly Father knows my heart and my intentions !! In this case, the best thing you can do is speak truth into your life. When a person does not know Jesus as Savior the primary work of the Holy Spirit in that persons heart is to convict them of sin and point them to Christ with the hopes of them turning to Christ for salvation. Intrusive thoughts are words, mental images, ideas, or any other kind of thought that pops into your mind unbidden and unwanted. They are actions that you feel will cancel out the bad thought?, So lets see if we can go for five minutes without you blowing any air out and without verbalizing that Chemosh is Lordand next time we will try to go for ten minutes. I said one of his prayers out loud and it helped. I want to walk in Gods love for me but this situation has just really been an ongoing issue . People arent inspiredthe BIBLE is inspired. i want to get back to that childlike faith i had on that day i saw the universalist websiteis it too late for me? I certainly dont agree with that thought AT ALL. a few years ago I went through a severe depression, and was experiencing this before and during the depression. They bullied. They bring the whole gang: obsessions and compulsions, too! NEVER let anyone convince you to believe something you don't truly want to believe. Like even if my feelings are kinda lost, even if my motives are selfish/intellectual, even if my heart is hardened, even if I have willfully and deliberately sinned a LOT, backslidden, and etc? The great thing is, God with us through the ups & downs. We are enjoying our feast, but they are not invited to the table. Our parents, society, schools, friends, and colleagues feed us input about whats true and false about the world. But I think I messed up a lot, I think for a long period I didn't come back to God to seek reconciliation often enough, and I'm sorry. Two years later to day and I can really testify that the Lord will never leave you nor forsake you !! I used to come back to God to seek reconciliation a lot. But I'm afraid the reason I want to do that is because of selfish/intellectual/interested in the benefits reasons. This time, I lost most of my emotions. They still come to me and sometimes, when I am in a vulnerable state, I still feel anxious. No one is too sinful for the grace of God. I struggled with porn. I have been dealing with mine for about forty years now off and on. I hope she was saved. I have cried out to God many times about this and I don't know what to do. . I had a mental breakdown due to this issue. I'm afraid I'm not genuine. However after reading this article tonight I finally know what the Unforgivable sin is. i have ocd and i have a bad thought. Whenever i pray, i'll say Jesus' name and automatically the devil stuff pops into my head and says i'm praying to the devil. I was lying there in bed when I started praying and it popped up so I decided to google it. And now I have urges to worship the enemy and its really frustrating. But I assure you, there are so, so many in the religious OCD community who would come and pat you on the shoulder and say, me too. So first of all, please feel the concentrated love and support of myself and the 4,000 others who are regular readers of this website. This power would exalt himself as God and blaspheme His name to the point of getting everyone who is not saved to worship himself. Occasionally I was daring God to come down and face me as a human. I am just like you , fighting on. God understands what youre going through, and He still loves you very much. I see others have gone through this, I dont want to go to hell either, I remember the love of God and the feelings of serving him only and still do and will always do. Its a very sweet and supportive group with amazing people who could have written your message for themselves. God is all knowing, He knows the enemy's tricks. Idk how to BELIEVE that God loves me .. For example: Whom have you reproached and blasphemed?Against whom have you raisedyourvoice,And lifted up your eyes on high?Againstthe HolyOneof Israel. It started after a very big attack of the enemy and death of my Dad. im scared of being numb and just allowing these thoughts while not being emotional about them. It may be a sign that you are breaking apart an old habit of toxic positivity and becoming more real in your relationship with God. Thank you for sharing your experience. These are often emotionally aroused people who say the first thing that comes to mind whenever they get the tingles down their spinedefinitely NOT what Scripture means when it speaks about true prophecy. But they are perceived to be meaningful, which makes them ever-so-uncomfortable. Next to the Bible, this has been the best thing I've ever read. My church decided to excommunicate me and never accepted me back. I just had a baby and was a little weak! I went in due to paranoia and was paranoid when I came out. Also, let let me know how youve seen God become more real to you through your struggle with scrupulosity! Many of the clients I work with are very bothered by their blasphemous thoughts because they arent convinced that these thoughts are not from them. The Holy Spirit has the thickest skin of anyone in the universe. Each repeat session is an attempt to solve this bad feeling so that you grant yourself permission to move on. It might feel like youre betraying God, your beliefs, and the people you love. Being able to say a fancy, perfect prayer or affirmation of faith is not the point. I just turned 50. I remembered a verse that said "God is not the author of confusion" and since the Bible was confusing to me, I came to the conclusion He didn't write it. The way to deal with this is to not analyze the thought and treat it with indifference. Certainly! I dont know how youll do that, Lord, but Im going to just keep coming to you every day and bringing you my confused feelings for YOU to heal them. He will not break that seal. Later, when standing before the court, Jesus made a similar statement which, for any other person, would have been severely blasphemous. Salem Media Group. Anyhow I came out stronger and renewed. Anyone else struggle with blasphemous thoughts : r/TrueChristian - Reddit It is commonly said that people who are worried about having committed the unpardonable sin havent simply because theyre worried about it. For the word of Godisliving and powerful, andsharper than anytwo-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and isa discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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